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From: Edward M. Corrado<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Sent: ý9/ý20/ý2014 7:21 PM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey
I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it,
but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many
notable librarians don't publish anything at all.
Edward
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items
> you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never
> heard of this "famous" librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different
> conference circuit than he is.)
>
> I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group
> of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able
> self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion
> works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable,
> there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references,
> not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments,
> for example for academics, there is a list of "measures", albeit not
> measurable in the scientific sense. [1]
>
> Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT,
> and for myself:
>
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAAAAAJ&hl=en
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao
>
> The "h-index", while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something
> one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication.
>
> I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation
> is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye
> and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which
> is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than
> women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about
> men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the
> problems of notability for women. [2])
>
> I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact
> you offline with other thoughts.
>
> kc
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
> [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html
>
>
> On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:
>
>> Friends:
>>
>>
>> I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
>> you profusely for the help.
>>
>> For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
>> $1.25M defamation case because
>>
>> From our official statement
>> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)
>>
>> "Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
>> libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
>> ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
>> post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
>> outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
>> commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
>> forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.
>>
>> Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
>> and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
>> of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
>> Murphy’s reputation."
>>
>> Right now we need the following most importantly:
>>
>> 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
>> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
>> started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
>> you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
>> might -- please have them get in touch.
>>
>> 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
>> details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
>> many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
>> speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.
>>
>> 3.
>> onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
>> mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
>> you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.
>>
>> We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.
>>
>> Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
>> made this all very much worth while.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Karen Coyle
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