Hi Stuart, all,

Very interested in the IIIF-developments as well. A colleague from the
University of Amsterdam recently did a post on Digital Film Historiography <
http://filmhistoryinthemaking.com/2016/03/16/update-digital-film-historiography-a-bibliography/>
and when I asked about the tools in reference to this conversation replied:

Anvil was used by Adelheid Heftberger in the Digital Formalism project in
> Vienna with really good results. In addition, the French tool Lignes de
> temps developed by IRI at the Pompidou center has been used by several film
> scholars and in education on several levels for video annotation, (it also
> exists in English) and I think it might be relevant/useful for the purposes
> described though it is not web-based from what I can see:
>
> http://www.iri.centrepompidou.fr/outils/lignes-de-temps/
>
> Stuart, hope all this brings you somewhat further to your original goal -
would be curious to hear the results of your quest.

Kind regards,
Erwin

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Tom Cramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Stuart,
>
> It may be useful to also cross-post this question to the IIIF-discuss list
> [1]. There is a lot of interest in developing a IIIF-like approach to
> presenting video via a common API, and one that lends itself to web-based
> annotation. This would allow theoretically allow users to annotate videos
> with their tool of choice, and to be able to reuse / export the annotations
> to any other tool.
>
> I expect this will be a topic at the next IIIF meetings, in New York City
> (May 10-13, 2016). [2]
>
> - Thomas
>
>
> [1] [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> [2] http://iiif.io/event/2016/newyork/
>
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Greg Lindahl <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> This may or may not be relevant to the "annotation" that the original
> poster had in mind, but the Internet Archive embedded video player
> takes subtitles in the common SubRip .srt format, which is apparently
> supported by many video players & subtitling programs.
>
> Instead of using this for closed captioning, you could use it for
> annotations. Each video can have multiple .srt files, with the user
> being able to pick which one is shown. I'm not 100% sure if our embed
> code allows the embedder to choose one .srt to be shown by default,
> that's where my knowledge ends.
>
> https://archive.org/help/video.php
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubRip
>
> -- greg
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 02:06:46PM +0100, Gregory Markus wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
>
> A colleague of mine has just recently recommended Clipper (
> http://blog.clippertube.com/index.php/clipper-prototype-3/) they're
> currently experimenting with it in the EUscreenXL project.
>
> Might be worth checking out for you as well.
>
> Curious as to what others will suggest as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> greg
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Andrew Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sending out that document, Erwin.
>
> This is a really interesting topic and I feel like video annotation on the
> web should be more of a thing.
>
> On top of what Erwin already provided (OVA looks particularly like A
> project that might be good to look at for your needs) there are also:
>
> http://mith.us/OACVideoAnnotator/ - which is a proof of concept using the
> open annotation specification (http://www.openannotation.org/). The
> specification is format agnostic, intending annotatation of objects with
> text, media, web resources etc. - the genius.com folks seem to be
> involved.
>
> http://cowlog.org/ - pretty basic, but appears to get the job done and is
> web based.
>
> There are scads of proprietary and open source desktop video
> coding/annotating software that I will spare you the burden of going
> through. Full disclosure, I work on a project whose sibling project is a
> desktop video coding tool for psychology researchers.
>
> From my vantage point, video annotation software generally seems to be
> developed around a specific set of user needs (a type of researcher and
> research subject, for example). More specific target audience gets a more
> robust set of tools targeted at those needs.
>
> The biggest issues come down to diversity of encoding for video and the
> ability for operating systems to support the playback of them. This said,
> the web has even more limitations around what video formats it will
> support, but if you control the source of the video, this might not be such
> a big deal.
>
> It would really be great to see video annotation for specifically DH
> projects warm up.
>
> Have a look at all the resources and determine whether you think it might
> be useful just to roll your own annotator using HTML5, some sophisticated
> JS libraries for handling media, and hopefully wrapping in a standard like
> the Open Annotation Data model (linked above).
>
> Would love to hear what others think/may have experienced.
>
> Drew
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Erwin Verbruggen <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Dear Stuart,
>
> A few years ago we started an overview of video annotation projects and
> tools for the EUscreen network. We haven't been able to turn it into a
> state of the art document as of yet, but I'm hoping it would be useful
> for
> such an endeavour:
>
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6CIL8oQjkAtUe2LGInrUgxpNzj5k9s17Mihz6UotIM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Kind regards,
> Erwin
>
> Erwin Verbruggen
> Project lead R&D
>
> Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision
> Media Parkboulevard 1, 1217 WE  Hilversum | Postbus 1060, 1200 BB
> Hilversum | beeldengeluid.nl
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Stuart Snydman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> I am doing some discovery for a DH project that, at its center, needs
> to
> annotate digital video (locally produced videos that will be hosted and
> streamed on the web in our local environment).  We are still gathering
> requirements, but it needs to:
>
>
>  *   have a user friendly interface for creating annotations, better
> on
> the web but not an absolute requirement
>  *   create annotations at specific timestamps, or across spans of
> time,
> and have those annotations associated with regions of the video image.
>  *   annotations could include, text, audio, video, image, URL, etc.
>
> We’d prefer open source solutions that can be integrated into a web
> app,
> but aren’t fully closed to alternatives.  We’d strongly prefer a
> solution
> that supports open standards for annotation or is at least capable of
> supporting open standards.
>
> I know there are many, many video annotation projects.  What is the
> current state of the art in web-based video annotation making and
> viewing?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Gregory Markus*
>
> Project Assistant
>
> *Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision*
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