++ Tom – I think the Code4LibConDocs efforts have been an attempt to remediate that somewhat. However, from my perspective, it really makes clear how difficult this process is, and how much we’re all asking of the really small number of our colleagues who volunteer (!) to take on this task every year.

I hesitate to say this, because I know this has been a huge bone of contention for the community, and I know a lot of us have really strong feelings about it – but for a bunch of coders/code-literate people, isn’t the existing process really deeply inefficient? We’re effectively violating DRY left, right, and center.

Just my two cents, and I have never been on the organizing committee (so maybe less than two?), and I’m glad we’re having this conversation whatever the outcome.

Megan

On 6/7/16, 1:55 PM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Tom Johnson" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> Can you say more about what you expect "the emotional and bureaucratic
>expense" to be?
>
>And especially, how it doesn't just reflect the existing costs of running
>the conferences? Do we really believe there is overhead associated with
>establishing a fiscal organization once, rather than doing it on the fly
>each year?
>
>- Tom
>
>On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Giarlo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Can you say more about what you expect "the emotional and bureaucratic
>> expense" to be?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Eric
>> Lease Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 13:49
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Formalizing Code4Lib?
>>
>> > I'm also interested in investigating how to formalize Code4Lib as an
>> > entity, for all of the reasons listed earlier in the thread…
>>
>>
>> -1 because I don’t think the benefits will outweigh the emotional and
>> bureaucratic expense. We already have enough rules.
>>
>> —
>> ELM
>>