I think we are beating a dead horse at this point, time to come to a concenus, I am not sure how you agree on these sort of things something like this?:
My Vote: YES
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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Mitar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Internet Archive is not storing any IPs, but just one-way hashes of
> them, which they cycle regularly. So they can still have statistics,
> but no privacy information is stored.
> And yes, please don't use Google Analytics if you worry about your
> users' privacy. But for that, users can use things like Ghostery
> (https://www.ghostery.com/) to protect themselves. If you do not have
> HTTPS, they cannot do much to protect themselves.
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ordway, Ryan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> HTTPS prevents passive monitoring at the application level, but there is
>> still nothing stopping the government from issuing a subpoena for the
>> webserver log files. They can still see what you're doing at the network
>> level, granted they can only see source and destination IPs and ports. With
>> enough analysis, some level of usage can be inferred.
>> Unless we want to turn off the access logs and remove any Google Analytics
>> tags, there are still ways for usage to be monitored and tracked. Unless
>> you always delete your browser history or use something like Chrome's
>> Incognito mode, your browser is tracking you too.
>> If Internet Archive has issues with HTTPS, it's easy enough to exclude them
>> from any URL rewriting so they can continue to harvest via HTTP.
>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Mitar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Riley Childs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Why? HTTPS is used when there is sensitive data involved, code4lib.org(at least to my knowledge) does not have sensitive data?
>>> It is not just about the security of the users but privacy of the
>>> users as well. Internet Archive moved to HTTPS so that nobody could
>>> monitor what their users are accessing.